James Bartram of Emerald Hills

View of the Church of St John the Baptist Aylmerton

James Bartram came to the Swan River colony of Western Australia as a young boy of 16 with his Carter relative. He became a leading citizen in Beverley Western Australia. He was a grazier and a mill owner among many other things including Post master and Justice of the Peace. It was known that he was born in Norfolk England in 1826-7 but for many years the actual birthplace was unknown. There is a photo of James Bartram with female relatives in East Dereham when he returned there in 1858 for a visit.

Aylmerton village in Norfolk

Recent research has revealed that James Bartram was born in 1826-7 in Aylmerton Norfolk near Felbrigg Hall as were his siblings. Some of the census records record Erpingham as this was the parish district which the village of Aylmerton and its 500 year old Church, St John the Baptist, was included under. His father William Bartram (1801-1842) was a farmer in Aylmerton. They were relatives of the leading family of this area of Norfolk the Wyndham or Windham family who owned Felbrigg Hall. William was born in 1801 in North Repps Norfolk.



William's father Sir Robert Bartram (1761-1844) was born in Norwich Norfolk and later settled in South Repps, North Repps and Metton areas connected to his Wyndham relatives and his Bartram ancestors. Sir Robert married his relative Anna Modin (Maiden/ Maidman) who was known as Lady Bartram. Sir Robert's grandmother Lady Wright was known as Sarah Maidman or Maiden. They were born as Italian Jewesses connected to the Barzelay (Barzillai)family of Venice and Amsterdam. James F Cook in his book "The Governors of Georgia 1754-2004" states that Sir James Wright (1716-1785) and Sarah Maidman (d.1763) had nine children. They were Sir James (the second baronet), Sarah, Alexander, Charles, Ann, Elizabeth, Charlotte, Mary and Isabella.


St Andrew's Metton Norfolk

James' mother Ann (Strange) died in 1835 and his father in 1842. Their uncle Sir James Bartram of Metton reared James brother Henry and his sister Ann after the death of their mother. James decided to go with his relative Thomas Carter to Western Australia when Thomas was on a visit to England in 1842-3. Henry was the heir of his uncle Sir James Bartram and they also released and farmed Metton Hall farm from John Ketton who bought the Felbrigg estate from Frederick William Windham (Mad Windham)in 1863. The Bartram family had been associated with Metton and the Windham family since the 16th century when Reverend John Bartram was the Rector of Metton. John Bartram (Juan Bertran) was from a Marrano family from the Balearic island of Minorca. Henry Bartram of Metton seems to have had a mistress or secret wife that his Uncle didn't approve of because of her lowly background. She was known as Mrs Elizabeth Bartram of East Dereham.
Stone Cross at Aylmerton

The 1841 census lists James Bartram as 15 years and living with his father William and grandfather Robert as well as with some of his siblings William (b.1835), John (b.1830)and Elizabeth (b.1828)in the parish of Erpingham. Henry Bartram (1832-1891) and Ann Bartram (1829-1888) and their brother Robert (b.1833)may have been living with other relatives at this time and out of England with their grandmother. Robert later had an apprenticeship in London and settled in West Ham Essex, possbily he was also with his uncle James until he went to London.
Sir James Wright Bart.

Their grandfather Robert was the grandson of Sir James Alexander Wright (Baronet) the last Royal Governor of Georgia. The name of Emerald Hills is believed to have come from the Wright property in either Georgia or South Carolina where Sir James Wright lived with his father Robert Wright. Sir Robert Bartram's mother was Sarah Wright and his father was William Bartram (b.1744).

Felbrigg Hall near Aylmerton

William Bartram of Fremantle was believed by many to have possibly been James Bartram's father William. This was not so. However this William Bartram of Fremantle was closely related to the Bartram family of Aylmerton both through the Bartram family and the Howes family. In fact James' aunt Elizabeth Bartram (b.1805) was married to her relative William Howes and William Bartram of Fremantle was the son of William Charles Bartram and Mary Howes (b.1771). Mary Howes was the daughter of Robert Howes (b.1737) and Elizabeth Bartram (b.1747) the sister of William Bartram (b.1744). There is also another William Bartram living in Aylmerton married to Mary Starling in 1824 in South Repps. They had three children born in Aylmerton John b.1828, Elizabeth b.1825 and Anne b.1827. This William Bartram is the son of James Wright Bartram (b.1763) and Elizabeth Engall the ancestor of the Bartrams of Melbourne.
Another view of Felbrigg Hall Home of the Windham family until 1863

James Bartram's wife Jane Williams was of crypto- Jewish ancestry, however one family tradition told by Henry Hillyer Bartram (1883-1949) of Dumbleyung was that they were related to the Butter Factory Bartram's of Melbourne and that the Bartram were of Spanish Jewish or Gypsy origin on the male line. Recent Y-dna testing demonstates that the Bartram's have a very uncommon y-dna (with no known matches closer than on the 12 level) in the group known as R-SYR2627. This Y-dna goes back to Spain and the Jewish community of the Balearic Islands. The Bartram's of Metton Norfolk descend from Llorens Bertran of Alaior Minorca Spain who took the surname of Bertran from his mother Antonina Judith Henriquez Bertran and Llorens from his father Juan Llorens (Yechiel Luria).

The Goose Warriors of Hunza

San Michele di Ganzaria: Home of the Ganza Family in Sicily

The Ganza Family was originally from the Mount Ganzaria region of Sicily in the 15th century. Ganzaria is made up of two words ‘Ganza’ which means goose and ‘ria’ that means song. This was the mount of the goose song. The ancient goose songs (Ganza chansons) are told from the times of Muslim Sicily. These tales were connected with Charlemagne and the Davidic descendants of Makhir Todros ben Judah (also called Aimeri de Narbonne and Theodoric of Narbonne) the Jewish King or Exilarch of Septimania in Carolingian France.

The original Mother Goose or Imma Ganza was the sister of Makhir, Bat Yehudit (Judith)who was also called Bertude or Bertha Goosefoot and was the mother of Charlemagne. She is said to have taught Charlemagne through the use of chansons or goose tales. Many of the famous fairytales of Europe such as Little Red Riding Hood is said to come from this collection of Mother Goose Tales as well as many Nursery Rhymes.


Angelica di Hunza and Rogero d'Este

Imma Ganza ‘s songs were added to by her descendants in Sicily which became the base of the famous epic ‘Orlando Furioso’ and the poem ‘Orlando Innamorato’ in which two of Makhir’s "children" (descendants) Rinaldo and his sister Bradamante take a leading part. These tales are also the base of the famous Sicilian puppet shows. The Ganza/Ganassa family bought these marionette versions of the Ganza chansons to Naples and Rinaldo was involved with them in Naples. Professor David Renaker writes: "In Ariosto's Orlando Furioso ,III.xvii, Bradamante enters a cave containing the tomb of Merlin, which utters prophecies concerning her descendants when she shall have married Ruggiero. These descendants shall spread all over Europe and the east as far as India, producing marquises, counts, dukes, and Caesars." Makhir is called Duke Aymon in these tales and his son Nehemiah ha Makiri (Amery l’Chetif/ Theodoric) is called Duke Namus (Namon) of Bavaria. This Namon is also found in the story of the Swan Knight who came to Charlemagne’s court. The Italian bards confuse events from the time of Charlemagne with those of the 11th century in Muslim Sicily. Ferrau is in fact Mar Nathan Kalonymus Barzillai (William Bras-de-fer) and Bradimante (Eremburga) is his daughter. Rinaldo is actually her uncle Reynold de Falais rather than her brother as related in the tales. Eremburga is the second wife of her half-uncle Rogero.

The Marionette Puppets of Sicily

In my article entitled "The Davidic Ancestry of Prince William and Prince Harry" I write: "Many different genealogies trace back to the family of Mar Eliyahu ben Barzillai giving him different ancestral names. He left Barcelona for Flanders and Normandy. He took Richard as his Frankish name, Mari Bohun de Ferrers was his title as Princely Captain of the Barzeloni. Both Fulbert and Tancred are aliases or nicknames given to him at different phases of his life. He also had two wives and a very large family. Many of his descendants would go to Sicily and battle the Saracens. His son Mar Nathan Kalonymus Barzillai was also called William Iron-Arm (Barzillai/Bras-de-fer) and in the Ganza chansons Ferrau. The Saracens called him Wala Kalon of the Ferrau (i.e. Barzeloni). He was named for his ancestor William de Gellone (Natan Kalonymus) a son of Makhir of Narbonne. His brother Reynold de Falaise was called Rinaldo in the Ganza chansons of Sicily and Rinaldo married the beautiful eastern princess Angelica de Hunza who lived with her brother Argalia at Yhanazria (San Michele di Ganzaria) in Sicily. William’s daughter Eremburga was called Bradimante in the Chansons and she married her half-uncle Rogero. The chansons are confused about the ancestry of Rogero stating he is a descendant of Alexander the Great and a Davidic Prince. It is Angelica (Angiola/Ultar) and her brother Argalia of Hunza who descend from Alexander the Great. Rogero is indeed a Davidic prince of the House of the Barzeloni for whom Barcelona was named." Mar Eliyahu's aliases are descriptive of him. Fulbert means 'very bright' and Tancredi means 'thoughful counsellor'.


The Jewish Warrior Princess Bradamante

The tales speak of a beautiful Eastern Lady Angelica and her brother Argalia who come from the far East (either India or Cathay in the tales). Both Rinaldo and Ferrau (Barzillai) a Moor desire Angelica. I believe that Angelica(Ultar /Altar /Altrude) and Argalia (Aga)belonged to the Royal Family of Hunza. Hunza was a Muslim state in Pakistan. Argalia de Hunza was the Moor ruler of the village named Yhanzaria or Hunzaria in Sicily. Like his sister Angelica he married into the Jewish family descended from Makhir and Charlemagne. His French Jewish wife passed the Ganza tales to her Jewish descendants and Yhanzaria became Ganzaria. They built a Temple in honour of the Archangel Michael the Warrior, which was also called ‘Tempio de Francesi’- the Temple of the French. The town then became known under Christian rule as San Michele di Ganzaria.

The Home of Angelica/Ultar on Mt Ultar

In the eastern Aramaic Jewish dialects Gaz means goose and Argalia de Hunza's father was Mir Gazan or Ghazan of Hunza who was also called Guaimar. In Hunza legend Queen Ultar was a fairy Queen who lived in a crystal or ice castle on Ultar Mountain which was named for her. Sarina Singh writes in her travel book: "On the lofty summit of Ultar (7388 Metres) towering dramatically above Hunza, a fairy queen once lived in a crystal palace. And from this legendary mountain flows Hunza's life giving irrigation water. Baltit Fort guards the entrance to the steep narrow canyon which opens in it's upper reaches onto surrounded by a cascade of glaciers and granite."
Hunza legend also speaks of the founder of the Hunza dynasty as a fairy or skyborn Prince who married into an older dynasty. John Mock writes: "We should also note that the legendary hero who married Shri Badat's daughter and founded the line of Hunza Mirs (Biddulph 1880:135) was no mere human, but a "fairy-born" prince, who descended to earth from another realm. The rulers of Hunza were ascribed magical powers and held to be "sky-born" (Ayesho in the local language Burushashki) like the hero who routed Shri Badat. The celebration in song and ceremony (Clark 1956:175) of the overthrow of Shri Badat by his own daughter and her sky-born husband forms a narrative about kingly power and its legitimate usage. Because of this significance, the legend finds a place in Hunza history as a validation of social and political conditions. John Clark shows us the legend being sung in the royal assembly, its singing patronized by the ruler, and the ruler sponsoring the tumshiling festival which reenacts the legend (Clark 1956:175)." The royal House of Hunza descends from Ayesho and the Ganish (Queen)of Hunza the daughter of Girkis according to the Hunza legend related by Colonel Biddulph.


One branch of the Ganza family descended from Argalia de Hunza and Imma Muriel de Barzeloni (Ferrau)went to Portugal and settled in Braga where the town of Barcelos was named for them. The name of Braganza is a combination of 'braga' and 'ganza'. Alfonso the first Duke of Braganza is said to have had a Jewish mother who was the lover of the Portuguese King. It would seem that the Royal House of Braganza descends from the Ganza family only through the female line. Argalia and Muriel's (daughter of William Iron Arm and his wife Mabilie de Wallincourt)son Rogero de Hunza has been confused in the Ganza chansons with his maternal granduncle Rogero who married Bradimante (Eremburga)the sister of Muriel.


The Hunza Valley in Pakistan

Some of the Hunza People of the Hunza Valley were Jewish before their conversion to Islam. The Ruler of Hunza was called the Mir. This name derives from the Jewish Mar for descendants of the Royal House of David. He may have been a member of the Khazar Royal family or one of the Khazar Nobles. Rieski based on the book of John Clark describes the Hunza or Hunzkuts as a lighter skinned Causasian people. "The Hunzakuts had lighter skin than the neighboring tribes and appeared to be of Caucasian origin. John Clark reported in 1950 seeing children with black, brown and blond hair and an occasional redhead. They probably chose the Hunza River Valley because of its sheer isolation, but the men took wives from neighboring peoples. Hunza women were said to have been beautiful. This is highly probably since the Persian women taken as captives were likely the best looking." The Mir of Hunza claimed descent from Alexander the Great, and in the 'Orlando Furioso' the same claim is made for the hero Rogero. He is also said to be of the Royal House of King David (see Milner "The Royal House of Britain: An Enduring Dynasty"). An article in the Times entitled "A kind of Kingdom in Paradise" states:"The Mir, or ruler, of Hunza believed his tiny kingdom to be the equal of China, and likened himself to Alexander the Great from whom he claimed descent. When the British turned up in the 1870s he took them for petitioners seeking to make Queen Victoria his vassal. Not wishing to waste time arguing, the colonial officials had him deposed, replacing him with an amenable brother whom the Mir had carelessly neglected to murder on his way to the throne." Michael Winn writes in his article "Hunza :Shangri-la of Islam": "The "Hunza Road" is a 2,000-year-old branch of the ancient Silk Road that linked China to Rome, the Mediterranean, Africa and India. It was probably its economic and military value that led Muslim Pathan tribes from Afghanistan to try to capture the valley; they would have wanted to prevent neighboring Tibetans, Mongols, Chinese or Kashmiri forces from controlling the Karakorum passes. And though it took three major invasions in the eighth, ninth and thirteenth centuries, the Muslim forces eventually succeeded and Hunza has been a center of Islam ever since." It is believed that many of the Pathan are descended from Jews. See this article about the Pathan.




Jewish silk dyers

Kurinsky in his article "Dye-Making: A Judaic Traditional Art" writes " Judaic merchants learned silk production (sericulture) in China and first established the art in the Near-East. The Romans, the Byzantines, and later the Norman Crusader Roger (when King of Sicily), all employed Judaic sericulturists to introduce the art into their economies. A sophisticated dyeing technology was likewise brought to Europe from the Near-East by Judaic masters of the art. The eighteenth century European textile industry, so masterfully illustrated by Diderot, was based largely on these and other Judaic innovations. Jews continued to be deeply involved in all aspects of the dyeing industry."

In ancient times the goose was associated with Warriors. The Ganza family would associate their name with that of a Warrior. The Ganza Family were involved in the silk trade as well as being trained warriors. The name Hansa or Ganza would become associated with a military troop or trade group as these Jewish warrior merchants traded in silk throughout Europe. In many Hasidic tales we hear of these Jewish soldiers who appear and surprise the Jews of Europe. Many assume they must be warrior descendants of the Khazar Jews. The Muslims of Sicily referred to the people of Ganzaria as 'kanzir' which is associated with pigs in Arabic. This is an Arabic version of Marrano.




Argalia (Aga Khan) and Angelica (Ultar) were the children of Mir Ghazan of Hunza a descendant of Ayesho of Gaz Kul and the Ganish of Hunza. Ghazan refers to this ancient dynasty from Gaz Kul (Goose Lake) high in the mountains. Mir Ghazan is the Goose Lord. The European historians and genealogists had hidden his identity by calling him Guaimar a name found in the ruling family of Salerno. Mir Ghazan is called Guaimar de Salerno in later records and genealogies. Like the Royal Family of Khazaria, Ayesho and Ganish embraced Judaism in the 8th century. The Jewish Mir Ghazan was allied with the Muslims and left Hunza with his goose warriors for Muslim Sicily, where they were based in Catania. Mir Ghazan and his family and warriors then allied themselves with the Normans of Sicily where he took the name of Guaimar de Salerno when he married Gaitelgrima de Salerno [a descendant of Makhir Todros of Narbonne] (born 1013)and the daughter of Guiamar III of Salerno and Gaitelgrima of Capua. Gaitelgrima de Salerno wife of Guaimar V (Mir Ghazan) was also called Imma Gaitelgrima or Gemma. It is possible that Guaimar V (also called IV) of Salerno was Mir Ghazan a son-in-law of Guaimar III rather than his son Guaimar IV. The later chroniclers sought to hide his eastern Jewish connection. The chronicler Amatus of Montecassino notes how different he was to his supposed father Guaimar, he writes that Guaimar IV was "more courageous than his father, more generous and more courteous; indeed he possessed all the qualities a layman should have—except that he took an excessive delight in women". Guaimar (Ghazan) became confused with his wife's brother who became the ruler of Salerno after his father's death in 1027 under the regency of his mother Gaitelgrima of Capua. He died in 1031 and it is then that Mir Ghazan took the name of Guaimar de Salerno and married Gailtelgrima the young daughter of Guaimar III. This is the reason that the numbering of the Guaimar rulers is often confused. Mir Ghazan is Guaimar V of Salerno but has been confused by the chroniclers with his brother-in-law Guaimar IV.


Gaz Kul or the Goose Lake in Afghanistan: Original Home of the Ganza Family

Gaz Kul or Goose Lake is also called many other names such as Oikul, Cakmak, Chaqmaqtin, Victoria Lake and Little Pamir Lake. Gaz Khan is the Goose City which is in Badakhshan in Afganistan. This part of the world is known as 'the Roof of the world". It is also called the Wakhan Valley. Citt Williams describes the Wakhan Valley: "This fertile valley has been inhabited and used as a Silk road trade route for centuries and is littered with archaeological markers. Age old petroglyphs, 3rd century BC Forts, Buddhist stupas and hermit caves, Islamic mausoleums, and burnt out army tanks document the valley’s colourful history.
This valley straddles the Tajiki-Afghani border and looking right across the Pyanj river is Afghanistan and the magnificent Hindu Kush. Famously known as the Wakhan Corridor, it was divvied up as a "no-mans land" by Britain and Russia during the Great Game era." One of the main ethnic groups of Hunza are the Wakhi.


The goose is the Warrior symbol of the Ganza family

At the time of the expulsion of the Jews of Sicily in 1493 some of the Ganzas converted and the others fled North into Italy. They may have gone to Calabria first. It is said that the Franciscus or Francisco branch of the family went to Naples. I believe they have taken their name from the “Tempio di Francesci’ in San Michele di Ganzaria. They became Christians and they later went to Switzerland where they became Mennonites. . In 1540 the Michele Ganza (Ganassa) and his family left Calabria for Naples. In Naples Michele’s son Raphael Ganza and his family outwardly embraced Catholicism and he took the name Rinaldo after his ancestor. Rinaldo de Ganza’s sons Michele, Antonio, and Fernando moved to Lombardy. Michele de Ganza the Younger was the great grandfather of Antonio Ganza who went to Poland at the end of the 17th century.

One branch of the family went to Lombardy others remained in Naples. In Lombardy most of the family remained outwardly Catholic while observing Judaism in secret due to the persecution of Jews at this time. They intermarried with other crypto-Jewish or Marrano families who had gone to Peru and later due to the persecutions of the Inquisition fled to Italy. Antonio Ganza (aka Aharon Ganzarski) of Lombardy married Maria Escudo (aka Miriam Magen) whose family had come from Chiclayo in Peru. Two other families that came with the Escudo family from Chiclayo were the Niculas (Niklaj or Nicolaj) and Cecilia families. The Escudo family were originally from Valladolid in Spain. The Cecilia family were originally from Sicily like the Ganza family.they reverted to open Judaism in Poland.

Chiclayo in Peru: Home of the Niculas and Escudo families

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Bnei Miriam Kollel

Bnei Miriam Kollel is a proposed learning and teaching community for Hebrew Catholics who are interested in exploring Jewish Torah observance and who are interested in the development of a Hebrew Catholic Spirituality. We are looking for anyone who is interested in being involved in this new experimental apostolate. We are an autonomous group affliated with the Association of Hebrew Catholics. The proposed location of the Bnei Miriam Kollel may be St Louis Missouri or another location if it is God's Will.

We are Catholics of Jewish origin, background or ancestry who seek to live out our Israelite vocation in the Mystical Body of the Messiah according to Jewish Torah observance focused on Adoration of the Divine Presence and dwelling in Divine Will. We also desire to integrate the insights of Jewish and Catholic mysticism into our spiritual way.

We are a spiritual ministry to and for Catholics especially for those of Jewish ancestry. We seek to be a resource for those Catholics of Jewish ancestry who desire to reconnect with Jewish practice and spirituality in the light of the Coming of the Messiah and the institution of the Eucharist. It is in the Eucharist that we encounter the Dwelling Heart of God. We also seek to teach Gentile Catholics the Jewish roots of Catholicism.

Many 'lost' Jews (some after many generations) whose families have become assimilated into the Gentile cultures, are feeling a call back to their Jewish roots and traditions. We also desire to assist them in their renewal of their Jewish heritage, vocation and traditions within the Catholic church and loyal to the Magisterium.

Archbishop Raymond Burke of St Louis in his letter to David Moss, President of the Association of Hebrew Catholics, states that “The mission of your association responds, in a most fitting way, to the desire of the Church to respect fully the distinct vocation and heritage of Israelites in the Catholic Church.” We also desire to explore together with others how to fulfill this desire of the Church for us to live out our distinct Jewish vocation and heritage in the Church.

Any one interested in this please contact me on aronbengilad@yahoo.co.uk If anyone wishes to support this apostolate financially please donate on this website. We are also in need of a house, appartment or property so if anyone has one that we could use please contact us. If anyone wishes to join The Chaverim (Friends) of Bnei Miriam Kollel to support us and our apostolate in prayer please also contact us.

R1b-L21 Davidic sons of Joseph of Arimathea

Those who have read my previous posts will know that I believe that the male line of the ancient Israel was the R1b haplotype and that J is the group belonging to the Samaritans, Saducees and Assyrians. I also have demonstrated how High King Niall of the Nine Hostages (M-222)is a descendant of Joseph of Arimathea's grandson Nathan the Red of Ireland. This Nathan the Red may be the founder of the R1b-L21 clans of the House of King David or this may be the y-dna of King David himself. Tsar Nicholas II of Russia belongs to this group and is a direct male line descendant of the House of Oldenburgh who descend from the Babylonian Exilarchs. The Royal House of Stuart also is R1b-L21.
Tsar Nicholas II of the Royal House of King David reigning over Russia

Recent DNA testing is revealing a number of Ashkenazi Jews [as well as some Sephardi Jews] who have L21 but not M222 in Germany,Poland and Lithuania. Familytreedna research project on L21 in June 2009 states: "Eastern European Ashkenazi R-L21* Haplotype Cluster discovered with characteristic marker values 388=11, 392=14, 459b=9, and 464c=15. Commenting on the comparison of several cluster haplotypes, Dr. Anatole Klyosov wrote (translated from Russian by Lena Govor): ". . . [A]ll these haplotypes have 8 mutations in 25 markers and 14 mutations in 37 markers. This places the common ancestor of all 7 haplotypes 650±240 years back if calculating on the basis of 25-markers and 550±160 back if calculating on the basis of 37 markers. In other words these seven people have a common ancestor who lived in the 14-15th century. It is possible to reconstruct that these families fled Central Europe around 650 years ago when Europe was depopulated by the bubonic plaque and Jews were often massacred as alleged culprits of the epidemic. The surviving Jews fled to Lithuania and Poland, who offered them protection. Jews at that time experienced a genetic bottleneck. That is why the most distant common ancestor of many Jewish clusters lived in the middle of the 14th century or later – that corresponds to the time of their migration to the new territories in Eastern Europe."

Possible route of Davidic family (L21)from the Black Sea to Germany fleeing the Persians in the 5th century AD

There is much confusion as to whether L21 comes from the British Isles or from the continent. Others postulate Celtic theories and Jewish conversions. However the evidence seems to fit with my own theories about the descendants of Nathan the Red who is the ancestor of the Babylonian Exilarchs. Nathan the Red's descendants left Ireland to settle in Babylon in the 2nd century AD. Later under the persecutions of the Davidic House by the Persians many surviving members of the Davidic House fled to Germany in late Merovingian times and others to Southern France in the time of the Carolingians. Other members of the Babylonian House of David went to Barcelona and Spain in the 10th century and we also find some L21 in Spain and Portugal as well as from some Jews of Sephardi ancestry. I also recently was sent this from the L21 research project: "Recent random testing of R1b1b2 men of French ancestry for L21 has produced remarkable results. Of those we have tested or recruited for testing, at least half have turned out to be L21+. The figure for Northern France is even higher. It appears that L21 may be as common in France, if not more common, as it is in England. L21 is also showing up frequently in Germany, and we have one member who traces his ancestry to Luxembourg. That is quite remarkable, as well, since persons of Luxembourg descent are pretty rare in YSearch and other genetic genealogy databases. These kinds of results are beginning to give us some clues about the origin of L21, although that subject remains controversial and open to interpretation. One thing is for sure: such results are revealing how L21is distributed on the European Continent."

A Samaritan Cohen

The R1b-ht35 that has been found in Jewish populations may be the true levitical and cohen dna. The so-called famous Cohen Modal Haplotype (CMH) of the J haplogroup is in fact the Samaritan and Saducee cohanim (priests) (J1 and J2) not the cohanim and leviim descended from Aaron and Levi (R-ht35). Dna studies also demonstrate that the y-dna of Mohammed the Muslim prophet is also J1e and thus he was descended from the Ishmaeli Samaritan/Saducee priests allied with the House of Shammai. One encyclodepia entry on nationmaster.com states: "Genetic and demographic investigations of the Samaritan community were carried out in the 1960s. Detailed pedigrees of the last 13 generations show that the Samaritans comprise four lineages:
The Tsedakah lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Manasseh
The Joshua-Marhiv lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The Danfi lineage, claiming descent from the tribe of Ephraim
The priestly Cohen lineage from the tribe of Levi.
Of the 12 Samaritan males, 10 (83%) belong to haplogroup J, which has three of the four Samaritan families. The Joshua-Marhiv family belongs to subhaplogroup J1, while the Danfi and Tsedakah families belong to subhaplogroup J2, and can be further distinguished by M67, the derived allele of which has been found in the Danfi family..." However the original High Priest line of the Samaritans died out and the present priests are from the Samaritan Levite families who are of E haplogroup the same as some Ashkenazis and Sephardis who claim Levite status. We know from Scripture that the Samaritan's are not of Israelite ancestry but of Assyrian ancestry. Absolute astronomy website on an article on DNA called "Y-chromosomal Aaron" states: "The E1b1b1 haplogroup (formerly known as haplogroup E3b1) has been observed in all Jewish groups worldwide. It is considered to be the second most prevalent haplogroup among the Jewish population. According to one major paper it has also been observed in moderate numbers among individuals from Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Samaritan communities having traditions of descending from the tribe of Levi, suggesting that the E1b1b1 Levites may have existed in Israel before the Diaspora of 70 C.E."



The website of Familytreedna states in regard to ht-35: "Before the advent of Y-SNP testing, and well before the discovery of detailed knowledge about the structure of haplogroup R1b, TaqI 49a,f haplotypes were used by early population geneticists. Two particular TaqI 49a,f haplotypes have been found to be associated with what we now know to be haplogroup R1b1b2. The two haplotypes are ht15 and ht35. ht15 is most commonly found in western European R1b1b2... ht35, the parent haplotype of ht25, is most commonly found in southeastern Europe and southwestern Asia...Elevated levels of ht35 have also been observed among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish populations. Recently, several SNPs have been discovered that are believed to effectively demarcate ht15 from ht35. These include L11, L52, P310, and P311. We believe that all ht35 will be negative for these four Y-SNPs and also for P312 and U106". The Wikipedia article on R1b also discusses the R-ht35. It states: "There also exists a haplotype of R1b with the DYS393=12 which is known in the literature as Haplotype 35, or ht35, as opposed to the AMH which is known as haplotype 15...They can be found in high numbers in Anatolia and Armenia with smaller numbers throughout the Middle East, in Jewish populations, in Southeastern Europe, and in the Caucasus Mountains. There is also a sizable pocket of ht35 in Uyghur populations in western China, which is thought to be a remnant of the Tocharians, an Indo-European speaking people that inhabited the Tarim Basin in Central Asia until they were later absorbed by various Turkic peoples. Ht35 is also present in Britain in areas that were found to have a high concentration of Haplogroup J, suggesting they arrived together, perhaps through Roman soldiers."


The Dna evidence seems to clear up a mystery in regards to the parents of Lancelot. His parents Anlach (Angus) and Marchell seems to have quite confused the genealogists. Anlach [L21] is the son of the Judiarch Nathan Todros (Tudwal)of the Gewisse [who some genealogists make the father of Marchell]and his wife Princess Coron [confused with a King Coronac by some). Marchell is an Irish Princess of Dal Riata the daughter of King Muredach [M-222]of Ireland. Thus the many L21 descendants on the continent are the descendants of the Davidic House both among the Christian Royalty and Aristocracy and their descendants as well as among the Jewish population. It is possible that all R1b-P312 may be of the descendants of King David and thus the clan to which Joseph of Arimathea belongs or P312 may be the clan of the male line descendants of Judah and thus Joseph of Arimathea would not only be P312 but also of its subclade L21. I think that the latter is the most likely. Nevertheless to the clan of L21 belong Charlemagne, St Louis IX of France and Machir Theodoric the Jewish King of Narbonne and all their direct male line descendants. Many years ago I read an old book that claimed that millions of Western Europeans were the descendants of King David and it would seem that this is indeed true if L21 is the Davidic clan.


If P312 is the Judahite line then R1b-U152 would be a clan of Judah and it could be the pagan Judahites that were taken away into the Assyrian Captivity with the Lost Tribes and for which Jutland was named or it may be from the Ashkenazi Jewish diaspora. SRY2627 and M153 would also be of clans of Judah that was part of the Jewish diaspora that went to Spain and Portugal and converted to Catholicism. R-M65 may be a clan of Judah that came from Calalus to the Basque country. At his stage of research it is believed that R1b among Ashkenazi Jews is about 10-15% and among Sephardi Jews 30-40 %. R-U106 would seem to be of the descendants of Joseph. However it is still early days in genetic research and further developments and data are needed to speculate any further. It is important to remember that one is not more or less Jewish if they don't descend from Judah on the direct male line. Through intermarriage most Jews will be descendants of Judah even if it isn't on the direct patrilineal line.


see this for more on R1b Cohanim http://r1blog.blogspot.com/2009/08/r1b1b2-cohanim.html

Also see Sons of Jacob, DNA and the Jews

Julio Cesare di Rossi

Julio Cesare di Rossi was born in Naples in 1559 the son of the merchant Guglielmo di Rossi and his wife Elisabetta Masella. His parents were devout Catholics of Jewish ancestry. Guglielmo's father Giacomo di Rossi a Jewish merchant from Ferrara who with his wife became Catholics under the patronage of Ercole II the Duke of Este. Giacomo (aka Jacob) was the son of Moses di Rossi of Mantua. The di Rossi family of both the Jewish and Christian branches were connected to the families of the Dukes of Este and the Lords of Pico de Mirandola. These families shared an interest in Kabbalah and how the Jewish and Catholic mystical traditions reveal deep insight into the Divine Revelation found in Scripture.

The Jewish origins of Julio Cesare di Rossi who became San Lorenzo [St. Lawrence] of Brindisi has been obscured eventhough his writings reflect the rich traditions of his Jewish origins. He may have drawn on the Jewish and Catholic mystical teachings as they were developed in the writings of Giovanni Pico de Mirandola and Giovanni Francesco Pico de Mirandola. Even the Jewish branches of the family such as the famous Salamone di Rossi the musician and his singer sister Europa di Rossi were connected to these aristocratic families who were patrons of the arts and learning with a special interest in the Jewish and Catholic mystical traditions.

Europa was a name found in both the Jewish and Catholic branches of the di Rossi (Rossa, Rossi, Russo) family. In Hebrew they were called min ha Adumim (from the Red) or Edumim. They were an ancient Jewish Roman family that legend states were bought to Rome by Titus. Rabbi Azariah (Bonaiuto) di Rossi was also a famous Jewish member of the family. Berechiah Russo the Sabbatean may also have come from the Jewish branch of this family.


San Lorenzo di Rossi of Brindisi was believed by the Jewish community to be a Jew who had become a Catholic. No doubt the Jewish rabbis knew of his family's Jewish origins and his features also were very Jewish. His knowledge of the Jewish writings and the Scriptures in Hebrew, Greek , Aramaic and Arabic were extraordinary which further reinforced the Jewish belief is his Jewish origins. He is said to have converted thousands of Jews to Catholicism. He was later declared a Doctor of the Church.

keseF nivchaR leshoN tzadiK (Proverbs 10:20)

As I have written elsewhere Rebbe Nachman of Breslov and the Alter Rebbe were accused of being Sabbateans and Frankists. In fact Rebbe Nachman and the Alter Rebbe were opposed to the antinomian teachings of the Sabbateans and of those later called Frankists influenced by the Prague Sabateans after the death of Jacob Frank. These Prague Sabbateans distorted and corrupted the teaching of Jacob Frank who in fact became a devout Catholic and his Zoharists the advocates of a new marian movement in the Church. Frank and his Jewish followers reveal that the Zohar was a book of Marian and Trinitarian mysticism. Frank and Rebbe Nachman were the forerunners of the Phenomenological approach made popular in the Catholic Church today by St Edith Stein and Pope John Paul II.

Rebbe Nachman in "Likutey Moharan 29:11" reveals in his highly mystical discussion on the "bat mazleh" [(daughter of destiny)who is associated with the Mother of All- daughter of Abraham (Bakol)]that his teachings have their source in those of Jacob Frank. Rebbe Nachman often writes of the Hidden Tzaddik who is associated with the Messiah son of Joseph and he refers to Frank as "choice silver of the tongue of the Tzaddik". So here in "Likutey Moharan" he in a hidden way reveals that Jacob Frank is a true messenger of the Hidden Tzaddik. Rabbi Moshe Mykoff translation of the Likutey Moharan states; "And this is: That one, too, has found bat maZleh- this corresponds to 'noZlim from LeBaNon'- from the LiBuNa (whiteness) of the mind...All this is alluded to in the words (Proverbs 10:20) "keseF nivchaR leshoN tzadiK' [the last letters of which spell FRaNK.]"


Rebbe Nachman clearly is negative to the perversion of the Kabbalah by Sabbatai Zevi who he alludes to as "Saturn, the black vessel" [shabtai patya ecama] and criticises those who build houses in the sky as do the Gnostics. Shabtai is the Hebrew name for the planet Saturn. Rebbe Nachman opposes the Sabbatean antinomian moral perversion by stressing the centality of moral purity by guarding the Brit (covenant). Rebbe Nachman refers to certain Jewish Rabbis as Jewish scholar demons who pervert the Torah to their own rationalistic and Gnostic ends. The rings or circles of Saturn are associated by Rebbe Nachman with the evil encirclements of the Other Side. These are opposed by the divine circles or rounds (Galgalim) associated with the concept of hair in a circle. These refer to the locks and hair of the Beloved in the Song of Songs.

In Jewish lore Shabtai/Saturn is associated with the black abode of demons (also see Testament of Solomon). Also ancient texts speak of Solomon and his adversary Prince Shabtai (Saturn) of Babylonia (Chaldea). (Also see the Anglo-Saxon text Solomon and Saturn). Rebbe Nachman alludes to this tradition about Saturn/ Shabtai and links this with the Sabbateans. He sees the two sides of the followers of the Tzadik and those of the wicked ones in Proverb 10 as refering to the opposition between the teachings of Frank and Sabbatai Zevi (the Wolf of Saturn who masquerades as the Sabbath Deer). This demonic Shabtai is linked with the demoness Lilith- the false maiden/handmaid spoken of by Rebbe Nachman. Here he seems to allude to Eva Frank as a false handmaid who united with the Prague Sabateans and betrayed the teachings of her father Jacob Frank. The uniting of Lilith (as a false Eve) and Shabtai (Saturn)is seen as a type for the uniting of Eva Frank with the Sabbateans of Prague. We see this mixing of the rich teachings of Jacob Frank with the distortions and perversions of the Sabbateans in the collections of the sayings of Frank that has come down to us.(see my article on Jacob Frank on this blog).
The God/demon Saturn

The Zohar in a number of places speaks of the false handmaid of Shabtai (called Lilith) and her opposite the true handmaid of the Lord the Sabbath Queen. Zohar ki Tetze states:"The moon was created on the fourth day and when it is waning, when there is poverty, Lilith was created, who is Saturn (Shabtai), which is hunger and thirst and the eclipse of the luminaries... There is another star, which is a small dot over the moon, which is a luminary. This is the dot Cholam a King's daughter, Queen Shabbat. And the dominion of both (Shabtai and Sabbath) is on the seventh day, of which it says, "that your manservant and your maidservant may rest" (Devarim 5:14)...." Zohar Phinchas also refers to Lilith as Shabtai and associates her with the lower part of Sheol. The Zohar alludes to Sarah (mother of the Israelites) as a type of the true handmaid representing the Sabbath Queen and the full moon is her symbol. Hagar (mother of the Ishmaelites)as a type of Lilith/Shabtai and the crescent/waning moon as her symbol.

The Israeli Jewish scholar Yehuda Liebes in his work "Studies in Jewish Myth and Jewish Messianism" also believes that Rebbe Nachman was influenced by the writings and teachings of Jacob Frank. He lists a number of parallels in their writings. "I shall ...remark on the several other parallels, beginning with those between R. Nahman and Jacob Frank, who, I believe, had a profound influence on R. Nahman. During his youth, in the years of his Hitbodedut...R Nahman may have come across Frankists who had remained Jews, of whom there were many in Podolia." (Yehuda Liebes in 'Studies in Jewish Myth and Jewish Messianism')